tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5489945968592018737.post2348049700425589857..comments2023-11-23T07:35:28.249-05:00Comments on The Tau of War: Essay 40k: Will GW's dominance persist?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5489945968592018737.post-13129991235141428462014-05-28T21:43:57.043-04:002014-05-28T21:43:57.043-04:00How is the data scaled in the Y direction. For all...How is the data scaled in the Y direction. For all I know this could be a 0.00000001% drop in "interest" over the years......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5489945968592018737.post-92010426862025047942014-05-05T23:26:29.581-04:002014-05-05T23:26:29.581-04:00Tim,
This is something I would love to discuss ne...Tim,<br /><br />This is something I would love to discuss next time we have a game. SEO and Analytics are part of my jobby job, and I think it would actually be kind of fun to try that out with what you've been looking at. Obviously, we'd need a beer or three...<br /><br />Thing about GW; historically, the pioneer in a field hasn't always maintained dominance. Through their success AND failure, they educate and inform the next generation which often surpasses them.<br /><br />Regardless- as you pointed out, there are SO many other options that any tabletop gamer should have more than enough choices to find something that makes them happy, even though most will die out in the short term, many will survive and flourish.<br />Lo-Panhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04014709809517464094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5489945968592018737.post-10881801765720945372014-05-05T10:18:53.692-04:002014-05-05T10:18:53.692-04:00Tim,
I'm sorry. I was assuming that when the...Tim,<br /><br />I'm sorry. I was assuming that when they repackaged them, they had redone them like most of the other kits. Another lesson in assuming :).<br /><br />Thanks for the correction. That makes me a bit peeved. Poor tau players. <br /><br />greggleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15528518337222880432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5489945968592018737.post-42544911778532627782014-05-05T09:22:38.880-04:002014-05-05T09:22:38.880-04:00Greg, it's a good point but the details are of...Greg, it's a good point but the details are off. There are no extra bits in the recently re-packaged crisis suit box of three models. It has the exact same amount of bits as purchasing 3 separate crisis suits from before. Additionally, the original crisis suit wasn't metal. <br /><br />On top of that, their molds have aged and degraded since the original release, such that every new crisis suit you buy has a bent jet-pack that does not fit to the rest of the torso. The only solution is to cut parts of the jet-pack and re-adjust. About an extra hour of work on assembly. <br /><br />So the actual quality of the kit has gone down, while the price has gone up. <br /><br />Your point about inflation is important to point out though, but with further detail. Look at the inflation rates over time and compare them to price rate increase per year. I would love to see those compared. Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11680110160882762433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5489945968592018737.post-84275402822216328872014-05-05T08:53:35.086-04:002014-05-05T08:53:35.086-04:00Some additional comments. It's important to a...Some additional comments. It's important to adjust some of GW's prices with inflation.<br /><br />For example, the crisis suit. 15 dollars in 2001 money, is the same as 20 dollars in 2014 money. At the same time, throwing three crisis suits in a box does increase their cost, but the amount of extra bits and options you get aren't comparable to the original 15 dollar metal miniature.<br /><br />I'm not saying GW's pricing hasn't gotten much higher...just saying we have to look at the bigger picture.<br /><br />I went into a normal hobby store the other day, looking for an M1 Abrams tank to use for a predator turret...it was significantly more expensive (40-50 bucks), then I thought it was going to be.greggleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15528518337222880432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5489945968592018737.post-12851306890261910362014-05-01T20:02:03.440-04:002014-05-01T20:02:03.440-04:00Hi Tim!
This is a really brilliant article that y...Hi Tim!<br /><br />This is a really brilliant article that you wrote. It has mature depth that is not often seen in hobby blogs. I really enjoyed it.<br /><br /><br />In response to it, and the previous comments, I think they are all right. It's a combination of video games with their quick fix capability (And much lower cost) combined with decrease in disposable income available to everyone on planet Earth (Thanks Obama), and also games Workshop's ridiculously overpricing policies.<br /><br />I look at that interest graph and I can trace it back through my history of buying tabletop gaming models from GW. I bought my first crisis suit in like 2001 for $15. m That same Crisis suit today costs $21.67, but only available in a box of three for $65. That's outrageous!<br /><br />Now when I go into a hobby store and look at the cool stuff Games Workshop makes, I admire it, then I have to put it down. I just can no longer justify spending money on it. Let's face it, $65 would buy a lot of condoms, a tank and a half of gasoline, food for a week, an entire 15mm combat force complete with vehicles, 3 of those awesome Mechafront models, or 3 X-wing ships.<br /><br /><br />games workshop has priced itself out of being a possibility for me anymore, and I am willing to bet that a lot of other people are in the same category.Cobalt Cannonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5489945968592018737.post-33050742293536898912014-05-01T15:36:21.213-04:002014-05-01T15:36:21.213-04:00I think you hit the nail on the head when you sugg... I think you hit the nail on the head when you suggested that it was tabletop gaming in general that was declining. Gw will remain the biggest player in a shrinking pool of customers overall. Video games won. This is a niche hobby we've got here. John Stieninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01860350974000948346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5489945968592018737.post-70164183137326192152014-05-01T15:09:59.780-04:002014-05-01T15:09:59.780-04:00The larger data traces tend to eliminate the varia...The larger data traces tend to eliminate the variability you can see in the smaller one. <br /><br />If you look at privateer press alone, you can see it's largely trended up (with a dropoff in the last year or so). Strangely, warmachine has stayed pretty flat. <br /><br />I think the fact remains that Gamesworkshop trending is down....alot. I would attribute this to the pricing out of less affluent customers and, as greg notes, a decline in disposable income. The whole boutique angle may be working for GW, but I think it's losing it's MASS appeal. davebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07531919635590898334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5489945968592018737.post-82879990004466511772014-05-01T13:02:38.228-04:002014-05-01T13:02:38.228-04:00There are a few ways to look at this.
1) GW inter...There are a few ways to look at this.<br /><br />1) GW interest drops as people lose their secondary income sources. (definitely a luxury hobby).<br /><br />2) Privateer press is not alone. It's in a very competitive new market. I bet if you showed all the secondary new markets (xwing, warmachine, infinity, dropzone, etc) and graphed them, you'd be showing an increase.<br /><br />Just a thought! Interesting to see regardless.greggleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15528518337222880432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5489945968592018737.post-85199255122501308402014-05-01T11:48:50.972-04:002014-05-01T11:48:50.972-04:00I think 40k will always be the dominant game. Even...I think 40k will always be the dominant game. Even it ever did bad enough for GW to tank. I'm sure someone would likely buy the IP and still keep it above the other games.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com